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Post by tabbie on Nov 21, 2011 22:10:17 GMT -5
We need to start hashtags like these #sickofsami #hagruinseverything and #backburnsami
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Post by jenjolt on Nov 21, 2011 22:12:33 GMT -5
It is just so sad that the writers went this way...I honestly don't think they thought through what the backlash of this was going to be!! I really hope they are sitting back and realizing they ROYALLY screwed up here!
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Post by pennieloafer on Nov 21, 2011 22:17:18 GMT -5
Do you guys really think James has a say in the storylines
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Post by ashtonion90 on Nov 21, 2011 22:19:40 GMT -5
We need to start hashtags like these #sickofsami #hagruinseverything and #backburnsami I already started one with #SamiFreeEjole. I literally hate the character of sami now. Idon't want her with Rafe, don't wanth her with lucas, don't want her on the show. these writers just finished what Dena started. I will not watch the show when she is in any scenes even with EJ.
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Post by nycsbaddest on Nov 21, 2011 22:35:14 GMT -5
Do you guys really think James has a say in the storylines I don't think any of the actors have much say in the storylines (besides AS, of course). All JS can do is just give us his perspective on what's happening. I am grateful that JS came to speak with us when he clearly didn't have to (and that was very nice of him)...but I think his perspective on EJ's love for Nicole might be a bit different from what's actually playing out on screen. I don't know, I'm starting to think that we will be going down the same dark road again...with EJ once again falling for the hag...and Nicole ending up the loser in love. I PRAY that I am wrong...but I am not feeling to optimistic after watching tomorrow's clips.
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Post by nycsbaddest on Nov 21, 2011 22:39:43 GMT -5
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Post by tabbie on Nov 21, 2011 22:40:38 GMT -5
NYC I was getting ready to ask the same thing. Lol I'll be there for a few.
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Post by sabrinad on Nov 21, 2011 22:47:00 GMT -5
I'm sitting at your table Ash. The little dose of EJ feeling Nicole up is not going to appease me. The scenes SUCKED. He could barely concentrate when she's opening up to him. Can you imagine someone telling you I CAN'T BREATHE WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT YOU and barely reacting? If she'd said those words the night of the snowstorm he would've melted. AND I really hated the smirk on EJ's face when she said she knew what he was thinking and he answered, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M THINKING. AGAIN, are we going to get a clueless Nicole? A combination of the two worse things, clueless as she was with Taylor and suffering the indignity of EJ thinking of another one when he's in bed with her?! It killed me when she was kissing him passionately and it looked like he was forcing himself to respond and then he pulled away because he couldn't stop thinking about Johnny. KILLED ME. And I don't blame ARI at all for those interviews, she has to be frustrated with the writing of Nicole as a simpleton. And c'mon, those scenes were written FOR Ali (and James) can you imagine if Ari had that kind of writing?
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Post by nycsbaddest on Nov 21, 2011 22:53:46 GMT -5
ICAM sabrina. I was sitting there...WAITING...for EJ to say SOMETHING back to Nicole! Nicole is up there giving EJ her entire soul and he didn't do anything but smirk and give her a hug. REALLY EJ? That's all you could do?
And the part that really bothered me was when EJ was talking about how he "lost himself" last night...and Nicole said "THAT IS THE REAL YOU." I don't know dirties...I hate to be so pessimistic, but I'm not sure that this round of Ejole will be any better for us. *cries*
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Post by rpmaluki on Nov 21, 2011 22:59:21 GMT -5
Ej only comes across as a coward to me. When she was talking about honest in their relationship I would have saddled for that, considering he didn't say ILY too!
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Post by pennieloafer on Nov 21, 2011 22:59:44 GMT -5
YES I noticed all those things. The real you pissed me. Off to no end!!!!!!!!
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Post by princess1982 on Nov 21, 2011 23:22:50 GMT -5
I really can't bring myself to even watch the clips. I just don't want to see Nicole being 2nd fiddle again. Boy, what week of DAYS writing can do to Ejole. We go from the best scenes on DAYS to this crap and wondering if he loves her or not.
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Post by peachy1 on Nov 21, 2011 23:52:41 GMT -5
Just watched. Yep. Sucked. Huge. The writing was so thin I could see through it.
The best scene was the first one when Nicole admitted her love and EJ looked cut up inside about it. The hug was sweet and lovely. (And notice that was all bc Ari and James rocked that scene in spite of the writers. How often have we seen that?) But then it fell apart. Thanks, writers. [Guess which finger I'm holding up?]
I have to say, for all their posing, these writers are not too deep. Whoever wrote the Ejole dialogue for Tuesday needs a crash course in psychology 101. It was so off. It seems they put their better writers on Safe and Will and I'm annoyed that they did. Sami gets to scream to the rafters how very much she loves Rafe and doesn't deserve him. Well, guess what? EJ can and SHOULD have those same feelings with Nicole and be allowed to express them. Wtf is wrong in having two characters say the same thing? EJ needs to voice his guilt trip and not hide behind Johnny. (Which, gee, I tell my man I love him after fighting it for ages and he says: "I'm sorry. All I can think about is my son." Really? Pull the dagger out of Nicole's heart on that one. Again, poor substitution for actual character development, writers. And you don't fool us. We're a well-educated fanbase.)
The minute, the millisecond Nicole said she loved EJ, he should have looked as James did (again, a-list non-verbals, James, given the crap they're giving you to say!) -- and then hugged her. THEN... he needed to pull away when Nicole said she was afraid of getting hurt and say -- wait for it -- "I agree with you, Nicole. I'm no good for you." I needed EJ to do the obligatory and very soapy and natural thing by saying: "You were right, Nicole. I have hurt you. And I could hurt you again. I don't deserve you." Yes, then Nicole would try to convince him that she loves him no matter what and gloss over all the bad stuff (thinking it's in the past, which the poor little freshman-level-college-writer tried to do... but failed). Yes, they would have ended by Nicole convincing EJ he's good enough for her and his still feeling wracked with guilt. But the fact they didn't even go there for a single line and have him say: "You're right, Nicole. I am a horrible person." And the fact they had to throw that Ejole moment under the bus to advance the John plot is irksome in the extreme. (Again, we are not an easily fooled or manipulated fanbase. duh!)
I mean, I thought I'd had my fill of some of the dialogue writing with all those horrible cliches (even during their great love scenes a week or so ago when they had EJ say: "that was then, this is now." And "been there, done that." I forgave them that banal idiocy because they gave the actors the opportunity to show the real mood of the characters.) Not this time. ERGHHH!! It's just sloppy, juvenile writing.
Okay, rant over. BUT.....warning: silver lining. But it's a real silver lining, I swear.
It's a GOOD thing EJ didn't say he loved Nicole back right away. Here's why: if he just said he loves her because he's wracked with guilt THAT WOULD SUCK EVEN WORSE.
So I know these scenes gave us all a feeling of deja vu and sent us all to our liquor cabinets... BUT I think overall, things will get better. The writing will get better when they pull the spotlight off of Sami and back on Ejole where it belongs.
And I think they'll do that. I honestly do.
But epic fail on the Tuesday writing, guys. And I HATE that the actor for Will is so amazing that he's making me watch SAMI. I mean, wtf? [bangs head against wall]
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Post by peachy1 on Nov 22, 2011 0:23:03 GMT -5
Hold everything. In looking at the second scene again, when he gets up from the fireplace after she asks if it's too late, EJ says: "No, I'm sorry. Nicole, listen, I still...." Does he say "I still love you?" Or "I still want you?" I still... what?
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Post by rpmaluki on Nov 22, 2011 0:37:57 GMT -5
I think he said i still need you. still not good enough but a whole lot better than an emotionally coerced ILY because he's feeling super guilty after his WTF smex with Sami.
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